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Réponse de Tenno no Amaterasu au Shogun.

Kakata
Sorry Amaterasu-sama, often too many words are useful only to conceal very specific intents.
So that, I'll go straight to the point.

Is it thine intention to launch a Nippon global war to satisfy the foolish ambition and thirst of vengeance of a single person or maybe, two?
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Shiono
I believe that this is the case, as we in Miyoshi have been subject to Aimijuns threats, blackmail and attempts at manipulation. Before that Aimijun was allowed to live peacefully in our Kuni, regardless of what Yamana wanted, we said to the Yamana council that we could not get involved in what looks to us a political fight and that it must remain in Yamana's Kuni and not come out into the world. The Yamana council accepted this.

Yet when Aimijun asked for an army so that they could go and attack Yamana. Miyoshi said no, as it did not have any intention of going into war with Yamana over a civil political dispute. Unlike Yamana council who accepted this and still remained friends, Aimijun became unreasonable, as she has become here. In fact Miyoshi has arrested Aimijun over her threats and manipulations, she is caught under a good behaviour bond and with a promise to be charged if she and her crew do not leave within 72 hours to show that they have the intention to respect Miyoshi's goverment. Unfortunately she only has 1 day left and has not moved.

We can only assume that her words and now her actions are purely motivated from willfullness and self-interest. She has no care for any one or anything but herself. She has lost the shelter of Miyoshi and soon enough she I am sure she will lose the humour of many more Kuni's. Of course then Hata's present governement in the form of the Lezards Francesca and Aamatseru. Have plans of their own and I am sure that they support Aimijun for their own reasons. And it was I and Miyoshi council who saw with horror the Lezards simply walk into the top jobs of Hatakeyma, only a month after helping Oda kuni defeat them in their attempts to take Oda Kuni by force that alerted those of our friends in Hatakeyma to who they really were. And with shock Hatakeyma now rises up to challenge them and treat them with suspicion. We publically support our cousins in their time of concern, because it is also our concern what happens to Hatakeyma and I only hope that the people of Hata that we know and trust will see the sense that the world is currently trying to be torn apart by a few and to stand firm and to stand up against their manipulations, screams and willfull missuse of kindness, if its not in the form that they wish.

Aimijun will become a criminal in 2 more days, with a conviction against her name in Miyoshi, then her shouts that she is not a criminal, this will no longer be the case - criminal my dear also means a disobeyer of laws - I care not whether another Kuni disobeyed you, we cannot know the truth of that, and that is what Miyoshi council has decided this, whether you or ashikage clan is correct, only you, that clan and the people of yamana can decide. But you will be a criminal in 2 more days, because have disobeyed another Kuni's orders, and this will brand you criminal for all the rest of your days.

One hopes you can handle the title. One doubts that you will however.

We listened to no one, we listened to you and your rantings, your blackmail and your manipulations of Miyoshi Council and judged you according to them and according to your willfull disobeyment of this council, may your actions speak louder than all the words that anyone can throw at you. It has been a dissapointment to me, that you would treat the shelter and Miyoshi so badly as you have. We remained neutral, your council of Yamana respected that, and you did not. And therefore, I have more faith in Yamana council than I do in your words, from this point on.

Another word: you were misled regards Nimue saying that you were in cahoots with me, I investigated this point. I cannot remember the details now, but she accused you and I of nothing. It was a joke misread by one of your friends no doubt. More like, its "like if...." than that anything did happen. An hypothesis.

I should also tell you that the use of stealth packs is only to prevent you from being arrested by our Public Prosecutor, you are already arrested. For one that claims to have vast knowledge of military power and strategy you know very, very little and just wasted your time, yet again.
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Miyoshi treasury is locked, not in debt. Hatakeyama has 1 town left. There are many battles in the war, we have won more.
Aimijun
Then came the turn of that woman. No matter how she dressed herself up, her word was still worth less than a koban and her lack of manners showed her true nature.

"Sure, hypothesis as those "threats" of mine you are blasting about.
I see here that Ashikaga Yamana taught you well their system: if you are at power you don't need to proof anything, just go slander then put under trial/killing list people, so one way or another your mess will be covered up.
Let me explain HOW you got to say we are threatening you: it all began with Laylani, your Daimyo, saying publicly that money went missing from your Kuni funds. She asked explanations and some of you came up with utter rubbish to justify the loss, then all went quiet soon, you all weirdly "accepting" incorrect explanations about the loss, dismissing it as it was never happened.
I then made a simple audit out of the very same ones you yourselves have presented, so that everyone could compare them and see where the money had gone.
I did it as I meant to relocated in Miyoshi and care; because I hate liars, thieves and bullies.
How THIS traduces suddenly into a threat? Maybe you feared the truth would have come out exposing some of you...?

And if we were to attack Miyoshi as you claim, we surely wouldn't have asked permission to raise the army; it would have been plain stupid.
You were told in the proposal that it was solely to ESCORT safely back home my Clan, whom have been unfairly put in killing list; we wanted to stand a fair chance of being able to defend ourselves in case we were attacked by their armies.
Can you blame us for wanting one?

Truth is that we have worked in Miyoshi, THERE ARE PROOFS OF THIS: at the dock to help speed up the development, in your mines so to help recover finances and we even commissioned you a ship that would have brought to Miyoshi more money.
HOW all of this can ever embody a threat?
You claims are simply ridiculous.

You can go on supporting a bunch of criminals you befriended, but you will NOT go around saying we did or meant wrong to you, nor that we are criminals.
WE HAVE/ARE NOT.
You instead are breaching now your own laws, depriving honest people of their rights and threatening them with preventive trials and even death.
I don't know what your gain is in all of this, but one thing is for sure: you are lying alot and you are NOT a honest person.
To conclude, as a matter of facts it is you and not me - between us - the one with many criminal records in her past, including the assault and sizing of Yamana Shiro not very long ago.

So - maybe - it makes more sense to believe that both of your parties, Tsunami/Forsaken and Ashikaga Yamana, are striving to make out of us criminals because we exposed and fought your wrongdoings.
Clearly, you are pathetic liars, and deceitful, dishonest people with no honour whatsoever.
That is the only truth."


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Shiono
Our gain is peace Aimijun and the cessation of your threats with your group, and your blackmail to our council. You are at trial through a vote by the entire council. You are at trial to ensure your good behaviour and exit of our Kuni with those persons who you were only a few days shouting we would have to deal with if we didnt do what you said.

I have not ever treated you badly my dear, I have spoken reasonably as has others in Miyoshi, it is you that are ranting and screaming and raging and etc. Anyways, the council voted legitimately on what to do about you, your clan and your demands.

Already those that are innocent have written to us nicely to tell us they understand our concerns and that they are not involved, however they are happy to leave the Kuni of Miyoshi for the time being to prove so. You remain in clear disobeyment of the government and its vote on what to do with the great threat that you claim to cause us.

Again, I dont know the Yoshiga that well, heard tell that their not to fond of me either. Your mistake was that I or Miyoshi would listen and allow others to influence us. But then again Aimijun cannot be the problem can she? Or the reason for the situation she now finds herself in? I think there is no hope for Aimijun to see past her own nose and that everyone must be picking on poor Aimijun and that Aimijun is right in all things. Perhaps Aimijun should find some humility and clarity in that the world does not move according to her.

Miyoshi refuses you an army, and asks you to leave her Kuni, the consequences of disobeying will be your consequences and you have been given a great chance to show your intent was not what you previously claimed. As I said others who can see that threats is never a good way, have left peacefully and have been given an invitation to feel free to return to Miyoshi at a later date, and for any concerns prior to their arrival to be sent to me and I would assure them their safe passage. We like people Aimijun, and we like people who do not seek to harm us and understand we have the right to ensure that we remain unharmed. You and you alone are the reason why we cannot trust you, you cannot even be trusted to simply follow the direction that a kuni government gives you. Yet you want Yamana and now Miyoshi to bow down to you?


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Miyoshi treasury is locked, not in debt. Hatakeyama has 1 town left. There are many battles in the war, we have won more.
Aimijun
The woman had face to go on, so she had to tell her more clearly what she meant before.

The vote of a Council doesn't prove a thing; you bring proof of those "threats" or what you say remain what it is: a bunch of lies told by thugs.
Stop lying to cover up your wrongdoings; I have never threatened Miyoshi or its councillors of anything.
I only said the explanations given by you lot to the loss of money were incorrect and FOR THIS you, Teruha and Andsaca HAVE instead threatened me and my people to "use Tsunami that deals in different ways with discomfort".
How comes? All because of your fear of being exposed, fear that honest people would have notice what you do, depriving you of the golden eggs duck.

You are just criminals and the fact that you are now sitting in a Council all dressed up doesn't change that you still act as such,
infringing your own laws by slandering people with no proofs of your false claims so to help your other thugs friends in Yamana.
Your people there in Miyoshi keeps quiet because everyone fears you; I don't.
I don't fear death, nor you, nor Tsunami or any other THUG in the all Nippon.
So just shut it, you'll do a favour only to yourself.
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Hojo_no_mariko
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Of course then Hata's present governement in the form of the Lezards Francesca and Aamatseru. Have plans of their own and I am sure that they support Aimijun for their own reasons. And it was I and Miyoshi council who saw with horror the Lezards simply walk into the top jobs of Hatakeyma, only a month after helping Oda kuni defeat them in their attempts to take Oda Kuni by force that alerted those of our friends in Hatakeyma to who they really were. And with shock Hatakeyma now rises up to challenge them and treat them with suspicion. We publically support our cousins in their time of concern, because it is also our concern what happens to Hatakeyma and I only hope that the people of Hata that we know and trust will see the sense that the world is currently trying to be torn apart by a few and to stand firm and to stand up against their manipulations, screams and willfull missuse of kindness, if its not in the form that they wish.



Well, Hatakeyama has tried to work with your government through the joint council. Results? Nothing, because you are not willing to do so. You don't want any collaboration with Hatakeyama since the beginning, when Sajanzv was former Hatakeyama no daimyo a long ago. I am not blind, nor deaf.

Hatakeyama is not your toilet paper. If you insult our government, who works hard for people, well, don't expect much consideration in exchange. As I told you, we are still willing to work with you. Considering the current shape shifting happening currently in Oda - all your friends are on trial because of corruption, dictatorship behaviour and so on - I would love to see an union between Oda, Miyoshi and Hatakeyama.
Kiyomi.
Enough please! Stop that. This is not the main subject here. The subject here is the letter of Amaterasu-san to the Shogun.

The verbal fight between Aimijun and the others has not his place here. Move it somewhere else. Moreover, the law is the law, we are in a society where the criminals who break the law needs to be punished. Often, it was death, otherwise, thiefs get their hands cutted and those who dont obey to their trial result are running to the death. Well... Aimijun-chan, Shiono-san and Nimue-dono, the best for you would be to open a new room and discuss of this somewhere else. Now, we should come back to our principal subjet.

Amaterasu-san, vos propos son intéressants, j'en toucherai moi même un mot à notre shogun bien aimée.
Amaterasu.
Amaterasu semblait amusée par la situation, l'intervention de Katsumoto la ramena au sujet principal.

Oh mais ne vous en faites pas Katsumoto, laissez donc ses personnes s'exprimer, c'est fort interessant en soit.
On ne peut pas faire une telle annonce et s'attendre à ce qu'il n'y ait pas de réaction. Il faut aussi assumer ces paroles tout autant que ses actes.

Maintenant, je suis fort aise que vous informiez le Shogun de mes propos, mais n'y a t-elle pas accès par elle même ? Ne suis je donc pas digne d'une réponse en directe sans passer par un intermédiaire ?

Amaterasu retrouva son visage fermé, figé à la poudre de riz.

Si vous n'en touchez qu'un mot, j'aimerai assez savoir lequel ! Je ne fais pas de longs discours, ni de longues lettres pour qu'ils soient ensuite résumés en simplement UN mot, comprenez vous ? Il y aura forcement interprétation, et l'interprétation est la base de la rumeur.

C'est qu'elle était pointilleuse notre Ama et elle détestait la mésinformation.
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Aimijun
She listened to a man never seen around before that day, addressing everyone there as if he was the Shogun herself.
He was gibbering about justice, but all he said didn't make sense as it was addressed to the wrong people. He obviously didn't even know what was talking about and that attitude really annoyed her.

"Pray, who do you think you are to come here and silence everyone as if in your right to do so?
Criminals who break the law needs to be punished; SO people that are NOT criminals should be guaranteed their rights to be respected, everywhere in Nippon.
It is everybody's right to defend himself against those despicable, dishonourable slandering!
Lately some people - Ashikaga Yamana and Tsunami/Forsaken members in particular - appear to have made of slander their way of living,
BREACHING laws without being punished just because they sit in a council.
Well, no one, be it people or Kami, will tarnish my name or that of my Clan or anyone else with false accusations without hearing me defending them, EVER!
It should be every noble, Councillor and Samurai's duty to follow the Bushido, protecting and ensuring Justice above all.

This is the main subject discussed here: it appears Justice and Truth in Nippon are no one concerns any more, as many are left free to abuse of their temporary powers and/or connections, even their titles so to slander and tarnish other's reputation to their advantage.

Such behaviour of them dishonours the memory of all great men of Nippon, their ancestors included.
So unless you have something more appropriate to say, or unless you can do anything to punish them, I suggest YOU keep quiet and go on with your life.
Either ways don't you dare talk to us like if we were criminals and/or unworthy of respect.
We want Justice and our names cleared of the slanders once and for all!"
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Kiyomi.
It was now his turn to listen to what she had to say.

- I am who I am. I am the honourable Chief Chancellor of the whole Nippon, the Kensei of the North and one of the councillor of the Shogunate. You may be respectfull when you're speaking to me Aimijun-san, even if you're a samurai or an ancient daimyo.

He sighs.

- If they haven't been punished by the law, it's because they played well the game of the power. The one who has the power rule on his lands. It's mean that he cannot be accused of anything because that person or in that case, that council, is doing the law.


Puis, il s'adressa à Amaterasu-chan.

- Amaterasu-san, bien que vous désiriez quelques réponses, le sujet principal est votre lettre et le tout a dérivé sur les querelles entre les Taira Ronin et la loi de Miyoshi no Daimyo... Je considère qu'il y a eu un écart là... Ensuite, je n'ai pas dis que j'allais parler au nom du shogun mais celle-ci est malheureusement sollicité dans tous les sens et les cas comme les vôtres sont souvent laissés au dépourvus, chose que je m'efforce d'éviter car souvent, les cas pris au dépourvus sont ceux qui méritent une réponse.
Aimijun
She listen to the man still going on about the wrong subject, then responded calmly:

"Everyone is who he/she is and to be the Chief Councillor doesn't give you the right to come and silence no one.
You should know that in life you will get the same respect that you give.
Also, as you keep forgetting the main subject discussed here, I will repeat it for you: it appears Justice and Truth in Nippon are no one concerns any more,
as many are left free to abuse of their temporary powers and/or connections,
even their titles so to slander and tarnish other's reputation to their advantage.
The people gathered here are outraged by this behaviour and are asking - rightfully - explanations.
Your simplistic speech shows only disregard for those that abide the Law, making of Nippon something greater and better. Let's not forget that "playing" well the game of power doesn't allow space for abuses; or do we have to believe you approve such behaviour? I am appalled."

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Shiono
I'm too lazy to state it again, so please let us listen while my scribe restates what I said in the Kuni of Miyoshi.

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Evidence wise, write me if you want it, and I'll send it to you. Otherwise the evidence is ingame mails and cannot be shown here, and since this discussion started I have always felt that people would need to make their own decision, we can do nothing about that. All the council can ever do, is show that it made a decision through a vote, did it democratically and after a huge discussion about it. People will have to decide from that for the most part and we are aware of that and yet still chose to proceed and due the actions of discussion and finally voting, I hope it can be seen that this decision and subsequent action was not taken lightly.

I know that both Daigoro and Aimijun are relying on the fact that the evidence they scream about cannot be shown on the forums to sow distrust and confusion. But lets be very clear they know as well as we do, that we cannot show it here, and their relying on others to go, well their not showing the proof, so Aimijun and Daigoro must be right. But I have and always will believe that others, even the silent others are far smarter than Daigoro and Aimijun are giving them credit for and why I havent bothered myself to address their shouts about 'where is the evidence' because thats one of the oldest ploys in the book that guilty parties always use against those that follow the rules. ^^


As for the criminals on the council, My Dear, the criminals always accuse the other side of being criminals. And as already stated, you are not on trial, you are merely arrested to ensure you and your clan do not carry out the threats that you challenged to the Miyoshi council. If you did not mean them my Dear, then you should of said so when you were making them. A simple PS down the bottom of your letters stating "I am only jokiing!" would have been sufficient. ^^
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Turning to Daimyo Fransceca with a considering look. "Your response... leaves me intrigued. I must be honest, I expected some yelling and growling, not an offer of a treaty. I can respect your response if you had of too." ^^

"If you say you guys want to talk to us, and have tried, well" Shrugs and nods "Okay then, can I ask you some considerations? Even though Katsumoto will growl, that we are derailing the talks. Perhaps though, I'll open a discussion in Joint Council, see you there." ^^

(sorry for no translator, my mouse died and its too hard to make a translation at this time.)
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Miyoshi treasury is locked, not in debt. Hatakeyama has 1 town left. There are many battles in the war, we have won more.
Aimijun
That woman was really unbelievable. The amount of gibbering exiting her mouths was unbelievable.
She wasn't stupid, no; only very arrogant and simple minded.

"I take you are not serious, otherwise you should only be ashamed of yourself and go hide. Let me recall to you that in Miyoshi does not exist a law about "bond trials"; such "practise" shouldn't exist in any Kuni as it leaves space to misuse and abuse, as seen with you.
A councillor that speaks like you do is a shame on the face of his people, but your arrogance clearly feeds your ignorance and ego and you are content this way.
Still, you are breaching your own laws and are slandering respectable people abusing of the temporary powers given to you by Miyoshi citizens.
You have already heard many of them expressing clearly and publicly their strong disapproval and concerns about the way you are acting.
I would be worried in your place.
Said so, I am no slander, no criminal, no liar and I have no will either to listen to such rubbish, nor to take it. So others here.
I therefore suggest you think, before taking to speak."

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Shiono
LOL 3 people is not many Aimijun and there's more than 3 who have agreed that we the council has done the right thing. And I'd like to thank those of your own Clan who have said they understand why we did what we did. I've met some pretty decent people through out this entire incident. But you young lady really need to calm down and accept the consequences of your actions with as good grace as you can. However, after dealing with you for a while now, I realise that if people disagree with you, you subject them to voilent talk and hateful speeches. Its a pity and I hope you realise that its your behaviour that is the reason that people respond to you as they do.

Anyway, your reputation is tarnished forever in Miyoshi's eyes, and I hope others Kuni's refuse to get involved with you. Because you and your behaviour has now caused you to be exhiled from 2 Kuni's. And Miyoshi is a peaceful Kuni, has always been so, and very tolerant of many different individuals. Just not the pushover and frightened mass you hoped to find however.
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Miyoshi treasury is locked, not in debt. Hatakeyama has 1 town left. There are many battles in the war, we have won more.
Aimijun
"You don't possess the quality to charm Miyoshi, Shiono; you have done too much wrong there to be loved or liked or even trusted as worthy of credit.
Miyoshi eyes ARE NOT those of a bunch of thieves polished and dressed up, DON'T FORGET IT.
Those who agreed with the course of your actions are your relatives and "business" partners; too little and too obvious, not least pathetic.
Soon you will see how wrong and done you all are in Miyoshi; many don't speak publicly, but this doesn't mean they are not listening
and/or making their minds up.
You are too busy thinking highly - how funny - of yourself to see this.

Also, the only violent/vulgar/hatred filled speeches were/are still yours and those of your friends/brigands disguised in councillor clothes.
Still, you remain thugs that are breaching Miyoshi Law.

To conclude, in life you ONLY GET what you have been seeding; therefore if you don't show respect you won't get any back.
Sharp teeth are not your exclusivity, but fine brain and lines apparently are and belong to others. We know why.
Goodbye liar."
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